Why does Russia have the best maps of Britain?
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yfelwulf
Vor 16 Stunden
@Jimbob Robob Exactly how would control hundreds of millions of people even the Germans found it near impossible.
yfelwulf
Vor 16 Stunden
@Influence08 Australia never entered Europe other than providing pilots.
Jimbob Robob
Vor 20 Stunden
Planning for an invasion is a bit of the usual paranoid middle class overreach about the USSR. As if a conventional bombing campaign might not have preceded a nuclear one or sabotage and special ops by agents and special forces wouldn't have been a thing. Invasion indeed! How paranoid. It's as if the anxiety over Putin has pushed aside the collapse of the USSR under it's own deficiencies when it was revealed to be almost certainly incapable of such a thing and had been for decades.
yfelwulf
Vor 23 Stunden
@thats not your bussines Unlike America that is about to become a 4th World Country.
yfelwulf
Vor 23 Stunden
@Raged Ape evo Russia had Germany on the run before the Allies entered Europe they actually captured Berlin. They also at Americas request defeated Japan in just 2 weeks. America only fought 20% of the Japanese Army that had no equipment and had to steal food to operate. They used the A Bomb to stop them surrendering to Russia. FYI the British Army outfought and captured more territory than America in Europe you must have seen the movie version where America won.
Espionage?
Got the video in my recommendation, the quality is amazing!
I know this is probably an annoying comment to have, probably one you get a lot, but this is the first of your videos I've seen and I thought you were Beardyman, whom Wikipedia informs me is your brother. You bot sound and look so similar. Anyway, I'll carry on playing the video now,are it to 0.11 before I had to go and check. I'll drop by again later to comment on the actual content of the video, thanks, bye.
@jayforemen you will have to checkout the application for the swiss maps (swiss topo) all swiss maps are available through the app. they are not as accurate as the swiss military maps i used, but the information those maps contain are insane
что это за язык?
I worked in an archive for a while, and found a series of Soviet maps of the UK, and a number of the local military bases had been labelled as schools (likely due to British intelligence trickery) and all schools were marked as non-targets.
Very well explained. Excellent quality. Well done.
Russian spies also measure the height of church bell towers in Salisbury...
Hanscom is about 20 minutes from my house, and I haven't seen more than one or two of the runways. It's a logistics base these days with a large civilian population.
I wish they had invaded . That way the E.U. wouldn`t have existed .
The first ever post-Brexit video (as in the first after the transition period).
1:22 Andropov was chief of KGB. Started big anticorruption campaign. As result it was war between Ministry of Internal Affairs(Soviet Police) and KGB. It is possible that he was assassinated
1:22 Andropov was director of KGB. Began big corruption investigation. Started conflict with
Only 15% of the KGB's budget was used for spying as we know it. The other 85% percent was used for "ideological subversion" (propagandizing receptive populations). Source: ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov
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Because socialism is a far more effective system and Soviet people were more educated and better trained.
oi, mate... know where I can get a map? Bonus Comment: Because they were Russian made they were all drawn with a pencil!
The thief from chips challenge??? :)
Swiss Maps. Small country. Lots of money. A defensively oriented military focused on artillery on mountain tops. Equals - unbelievable maps. Singular trees are visible on most.
Radiators huh, The Russian San Galli's claim as the inventor of the heating radiator is disputed. It appears that he is one of several people who contributed to the development of the heating innovation. San Galli received a radiator patent in 1857, while American Joseph Nason developed a primitive radiator in 1841and received a number of U.S. patents for hot water and steam heating. Nason's patent for tapered pipe threads in particular is cited by 1930s writer Ara Marcus Daniels as the key development in the birth of the radiator.
KOSHMAR!
actress playing her...
The periodic table? I'm pretty sure the UK has made the largest contribution to the periodic table?
dueeh nyyu
Vor 7 Stunden
paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. GЯEДT VIDEO FOLKS! 🖖
Your book is currently unavailable on Amazon. Any other source to get it? Thank you
Poland invented Vodka in 1405 just like the irish invented whiskey in 1405 ONE STRUGGLE
„Don’t watch it now, watch it later!“ - here‘s that episode: denewss.info/channel/oamip92gnGTKj6c/video.html
Only thing more irritating than Meg is British Accent.
Tunbridge wells translation is jokes
i'm polish and live in britland, and the phonetic spelling is not bad lol
because they had bears to ride on
Finally another video of Map men
You win at 1:03!
Winning WW2 is debatable
simon dupper
Vor 8 Stunden
They were the reason ww2 was won, they captured Berlin, killed the most soldiers, and undoubtedly won the war
Kong
Vor 8 Stunden
No it’s not
5:59 expected a NordVPN ad right about here
k o s h m a r
The Chip's Challenge spy icon lmfao
When you said won the war for us, I puked a little. If you consider the rape and pillage of hundreds of miles of land a win then kudos to you.
Hence the draft of young men of the free West in the army, like myself.
*I am Russian and I made very detailed maps of some parts of the UK. Spoiler alert: this won’t be a spy story* 😁 Shortly after moving to London in 2009 as a student, I became interested in OpenStreetMap (OSM), which is an open map of the whole planet similar to Wikipedia. It did not take me much time to discover a nice local OSM community with pub meetups in ‘mapping parties’, which I happily joined. A mapping party in OSM is when the volunteers split some area into slices, decide who maps what, then walk around with clipboards, pens and photo cameras and finally add the collected data to the database under a free license. A few London blocks around Baker Street is an example of how crazy I sometimes went in surveying the details: see building colours and roof shapes, street lamps, individual trees, etc.: demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.5230613&lon=-0.1591994&zoom=18&camera.theta=49.87&camera.phi=42.112 I bet Soviet spies would be jealous! 😂 I did not know about that crazy mapping project by the Soviets until going to an exception called ‘Maps and the 20th Century’, which took place at the British library in 2017. There was a pretty large paper map of Brighton, which I found pretty detailed, but not exceptional by any means at first glance. Only after checking the label plate, I realised that all captions on that map were in Cyrillic and this totally blew my mind! The funniest thing for me then was that a few years before seeing that Soviet map I also mapped Brighton with OSM folks, and my ‘mapping cake’ slice was the Brighton peer. The photo of how I was processing the collected data was even uploaded to Wikimedia commons by somebody after that: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adding_data_to_OSM_after_mapping_Brighton_Pier.jpg Again, a Soviet spy would be 100% jealous seeing the tech that I used! 😂 It’s so cool to realise that the fabric of the 21st century is much more open and humane compared to the 20th century’s one. Although parts of the world are still ruled by old and paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. GЯEДT VIDEO FOLKS! 🖖
glad to hear Russia won WW2 for us especially the 2 years of the war they were essentially on the Germans side
спасибо за видео, товарищи. смотрел вместе с медведем
5:29 Copenhagen, Denmark. Yay!
Potat... oes? Fuckin' uncle Colin with the plurals.
Kinda refreshing to hear someone NOT russian say that we(russians) won the WW2. Thanks!
I am willing to bet that the map at 5:28 is a map of Copenhagen.... Which is, as you know, not in Britain.
Just spotted Copenhagen at 5.29. Greetings from a Danish map-fan.
OMG You guys mentioned the Soviet Maps in Afghanistan and how they were used by the U.S. I never deployed, but when I trained using Afghanistan as a scenario, I was very, very confused when looking at the various maps of Afghanistan, I had NO idea why the most accurate, meticulous and most detailed map before the actual safelite images was completely in Russian.... Now I know!
Any interest in Tartary Maps?
They have the best spies
"And I for one welcome our new Soviet overlords."
Other countries: we’ve heard of this undiscovered area where nobodies ever chartered before Britian: 0:14
3:44 where these spy icons from? Some videogame?
Jay Foreman
Vor 14 Stunden
Chips Challenge
I love how you included Georgy Malenkov in the list of leaders, despite being only a transitionary leader from Stalin to Khurshchev.
RabidRacoonGaming
Vor 4 Stunden
@Jay Foreman Good philosophy
Jay Foreman
Vor 14 Stunden
He’s on Wikipedia’s list, so he counts.
I found my town on the map
6:04 For anyone wondering, Кошмар literally means Nightmare, and can be used to express emotion when something goes wrong.
Russia winning WW2? Aha. I never knew that. I do remember this saying from a Soviet Diplomat. "You guys went to war to stop Totalitarisme in Eastern Europe by Hitler, and you ensured it by us." Btw, i thought the west also had a part in it? Btw, i remember Poland was to be protected, by the Western Powers. Like Britain. Btw, i remember Stalin also invading Poland right after Hitler went in first (Stalin claiming he was not yet ready.) So yeah, i guess you are right.
bertjesklotepino
Vor 15 Stunden
@foopyu nooui what do you mean?
foopyu nooui
Vor 15 Stunden
Still don’t have New Zealand on all of your maps
The bit that you're in black suits next to the path and the building site fencing, is that turkey brook at forty hall. I know this is random
Cartography, Sovietism and niche knowledge, sounds like a wet dream. Great vid.
One word. HUMINT
They were not "Russian leaders", ffs, they were Soviet. And if you want to inform about their nationality, well, most of them were Ukrainian.
A detailed map of the Cuillin Ridge would be usefull, cos there ain't nothing I can find.
Don't play with the Russians!! They even mapped the PMs bowel movements.
where the FUCK is the second "men" at the end of the intro i am not ok with this
interesting but the over-perky-sing-song voices are unbearable. Sort it out lads, just be yourselves.
“Winning World War 2.” Yeah, with US money
3:38 "until no matter where you lived in the world, you were always at least 10,000 miles from a Russian spy." Where were the spies? In a medium Earth orbit?
Old Soviet topographical maps are realty the best in the world. Highly detailed USSR Military Staff maps from 70s or 80s are still extremely popular among the hikers and alpinists in Russia and other ex-Soviet countries. No wonder they have made maps of other countries too. Going hiking in Scottish Highlands you better take old Soviet military map than the useless modern touristic one 😊 So, fellow British
Planning for an invasion is a bit of the usual paranoid middle class overreach about the USSR. As if a conventional bombing campaign might not have preceded a nuclear one or sabotage and special ops by agents and special forces wouldn't have been a thing. Invasion indeed! How paranoid. It's as if the anxiety over Putin has pushed aside the collapse of the USSR under it's own deficiencies when it was revealed to be almost certainly incapable of such a thing and had been for decades.
Question is were the non sovie maps meant for civilian use or not. Because if no, any basic knowledge about how military works can explain inaccuracies.
Do one about google mars.
Russia is the guy on the internet you challege to for a 1v1, and then texts you back your address
Still don’t have New Zealand on all of your maps
I think you know why.
Russia had Germany on the run before the Allies entered Europe they actually captured Berlin. They also at Americas request defeated Japan in just 2 weeks. America only fought 20% of the Japanese Army that had no equipment and had to steal food to operate. They used the A Bomb to stop them surrendering to Russia. FYI the British Army outfought and captured more territory than America in Europe you must have seen the movie version where America won.
I like how the conflict meter has ‘Not in the Christmas card list’ and ‘Nuke ‘em!’ with no gap between them
The rough mall karunagappally bolt because rock cellularly coach besides a sick earth. shocking, loving punishment
mijuo roui
Vor 23 Stunden
America defeated the wrong enemy in ww2.
So they can find Salisbury 😉
"Don't watch it nowwwww, watch it laterrrrrr..."
Pure English humor..and such a finest theme.. oh man, I like it.
You guys really hate Frome!
Why are you studying Polish? To learn how to pronounce English place names of course!
You idiots have no idea of what you speak of, read history, if you read enough you might have some surprising results.
Russia fuck u
At some point, those map making spies must've thought "Gee, everything sure is a lot nicer here than it is at home. There was probably at least some hesitation to return to the soviet union and its brutalist architecture after the job was complete.
When they were actually in print East European city maps of the cold War era were much better than British ones, full colour printing with all the public transport routes layed out very neatly in different colours on the map, with the stops named, so that a stranger to the town or city, such as myself could easily navigate from the map.
i thought u guys were smosh at first lol
We must protect Uncle Colin at all cost
i subscribed as soon as i heard that intro. YES
I hate my job, I hate my life, I want to get out of here, I want to learn new skills so I can start a new career.
"Polish Allies" more like Polish subjects
Just stumbled on your channel, it’s so “Fun with flags” - I absolutely LOVE it! You guys have just gotten a new subscriber :)
The USSR inherited highly accurate military maps from the Russian Empire, most of the British maps were the best due to the Tsar and the King being cousins bringing a close military alliance between the two Imperial Empires.
America defeated the wrong enemy in ww2.
Jay ваша личность была раскрыта. Немедленно покупайте билет в Москву. Агент СВР свяжется с вами как только сможет. Явка там же, если увидите фикус - явка провалена. Glory to Russia
English vs Russia Maps ? I can't to choice because there are beatyfull at all. In Bulgaria we still use Russian Topo maps. It helps very well BUT... Some objects like war base is missing. Probably in English map is visible. Or the map have a mistakes with details of map (missing coordinates, or type of plan (like 1: 25 000)). If have a coordinates, always check with little Mathemathic tasks to find the real coordinate because in Bulgaria some maps was made with totally wrong details (Somewhere in North, but actual is South or fake name of the towns).
Bogomil Georgiev
Vor Tag
Watch the Depeche Mode Album from 1987 - Music for the Mases - Cover Album Photo. Soviet Map and Big Speaker like Easterns.
I mean, is it really surprising that your enemy has better maps than the public ones you released of your super secret facilities?
Winners tell the story for sure and this is a clear example.
Xeers from Mexico gals
You two found a lot of these maps in a scour of Eastern Europe? If that’s true, it’s one of the most amazing stories. And you can’t believe how please I am to hear Frome pronounced properly ... again 🙂